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Post by Koz on Aug 18, 2013 0:57:50 GMT -5
Thread is Bogus when Shula isn't mentioned.
Ogre at Ole Miss deserves an honorable mention
Curley Hallman deserves strong accolades for scoring 26 points while never giving up an offensive TD and finding a way to lose. To his credit he is a hella barroom pool player and a decent guy
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Post by gramps on Aug 18, 2013 8:42:15 GMT -5
A couple off the top of my head:
Bill Battle. Tremendous person, and a great businessman, but he flat out sucked as a football coach. The original White Wade Houston.
Hal Mumme. Innovative offensive mind, but he had zero common sense. Didn't know that punting was legal on 4th down. Also didn't know that his defenses were allowed get off the bus on game day.
Mike Price. If for no other reason just because he was too damned stupid to say out of trouble long enough to even coach one game at Alabama. Could have had a "retirement" plan the caliber of former UT coaches in a buyout if he had just realized that his Destiny was a mistake before he made it.
Doug Barfield. Another coach who had a great situation, but couldn't get out of his own way.
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Post by Koz on Aug 18, 2013 9:22:21 GMT -5
Ron Zook says hello
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Post by JM on Aug 18, 2013 9:52:53 GMT -5
Zook recruited all of Urban's talent and had winning seasons at Illinois. He wasn't great but not near as bad as the common perception.
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Post by gramps on Aug 18, 2013 9:59:05 GMT -5
Zook recruited all of Urban's talent and had winning seasons at Illinois. He wasn't great but not near as bad as the common perception. Agreed. Zook's worst "fault" was that he wasn't Steve Spurrier. By the way, Zook really knew his way around a fax machine.
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Post by Koz on Aug 18, 2013 10:12:42 GMT -5
Zook took over a UF team that had owned the league for a decade. He then took them to 8-5, 8-5, 7-4. Youre right he certainly wasn't Spurrier.
He was only 17 games below 500 at ILL. Complete failure as a coach
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Post by gramps on Aug 18, 2013 10:35:51 GMT -5
Koz - who could have followed Spurrier and kept UF at the same level that Spurrier did? Like the old saying goes, it's better to be the guy who follows the guy who follows a legend than the guys who follows the legend.
Not saying that Zook is a great football coach, but just that he isn't an awful coach. Illinois was a disaster, but for goodness sakes it is Illinois.
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Post by Koz on Aug 18, 2013 11:09:49 GMT -5
So IILL was a disaster and UF was the top of the mountain. He failed at both stops. He was an awful coach
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Post by JM on Aug 18, 2013 12:57:54 GMT -5
Zook Should have gotten a ring for 2006.
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Post by TNCOWBOY on Aug 18, 2013 13:10:24 GMT -5
I don't see Zook on this list either. Bad but not historically so as these other guys are.
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Post by 404whore on Aug 18, 2013 13:35:13 GMT -5
Yeah Zookeeper was sandwiched between two HoF coaches...
He's not greatness personified but he's no Dooley either
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Post by wolfgang on Aug 18, 2013 16:21:14 GMT -5
Zook's sideline interviews wre unintentionally hilarious. Pretty much just stream-of-consciousness. I think it was Erin Andrews that almost started laughing when he got on a roll one time.
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Post by Magnum on Aug 18, 2013 16:36:07 GMT -5
To Bill Battle's defense, he was 28 years old when he was hired. UT should have hired Johnny THEN, when the program was really, really good, and owned BAMA.
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