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Post by relic on Sept 14, 2015 19:34:06 GMT -5
It's early, but I am overly underwhelmed by his impact this season so far.
Both with the OL and as OC.
Looked like a clueless concrete statue in the pressbox shots during OU game.
Question is: Why??
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Post by TNCOWBOY on Sept 14, 2015 22:46:05 GMT -5
What did we get like 50 total yards the second half?
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Post by relic on Sept 14, 2015 23:12:13 GMT -5
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Post by Thunder Good-Oil on Sept 15, 2015 2:05:41 GMT -5
Need improvements to the O-Line more than anything. When your QB only has 2-3 seconds on every play, it won't matter who is calling plays. Joe Montana and Bill Walsh would look inept operating with that lack of talent up front.
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Post by TNCOWBOY on Sept 15, 2015 7:34:28 GMT -5
Need improvements to the O-Line more than anything. When your QB only has 2-3 seconds on every play, it won't matter who is calling plays. Joe Montana and Bill Walsh would look inept operating with that lack of talent up front. OLine play was as bad as anything last year in 2nd half. Butch's F ups are obscuring that. Dobbs is catching heat as well and while he will never be a great passer I don't see what anyone expected him to do. He had no chance. Never mind the fact he still did enough to win if Ellis catches that can of corn. |
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Post by volsman182 on Sept 15, 2015 20:19:49 GMT -5
Why the hell didn't we have a real search for OC? Why wasn't Quarrels considered? I have no doubt if he would have hired GQ and let him run his offense, this team would win at least 10 games.
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Post by relic on Sept 15, 2015 21:27:59 GMT -5
Why the hell didn't we have a real search for OC? Why wasn't Quarrels considered? I have no doubt if he would have hired GQ and let him run his offense, this team would win at least 10 games. All due respect VM182, but it is becoming quite clear that our head coach is one strange bird who is in all probability out of his depth. Quite certainly Quarrels would never (so far) even appear on Jones radar screen. At the same time it is unclear if: #1 He is capable of and willing to grow and change. And#2: If #1 is truth, will we give him enough time to execute. IDK. |
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Post by TNCOWBOY on Sept 15, 2015 21:52:25 GMT -5
Fulmer wouldn't give Quarles the time of day either. None of these delusional gasbag coaches would even think to lower themselves.
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Post by Thunder Good-Oil on Sept 16, 2015 1:02:26 GMT -5
Butch is betting his career on that offense. If it works he's the next Chip Kelly. If it fails, he get a $15 million buyout.
He had to bring in an OC that would run Butch's offense.
He's not so dumb after all.
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Post by TNCOWBOY on Sept 16, 2015 8:30:25 GMT -5
Butch is betting his career on that offense. If it works he's the next Chip Kelly. If it fails, he get a $15 million buyout. He had to bring in an OC that would run Butch's offense. He's not so dumb after all. Except he isn't running anything resembling Kelly's offense. Kelly didn't run WR's in and out causing the pace of his play to be delayed. The more I think about it the more I'm convinced that's problem #1. |
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Post by 404whore on Sept 16, 2015 8:38:58 GMT -5
When you have better athletes you don't run primarily gimmick offenses you keep it simple & pound it down their throats (on ground & in air)
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Post by TNCOWBOY on Sept 16, 2015 10:27:00 GMT -5
When you have better athletes you don't run primarily gimmick offenses you keep it simple & pound it down their throats (on ground & in air) Agree with this. |
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Post by Thunder Good-Oil on Sept 16, 2015 18:18:56 GMT -5
Butch is betting his career on that offense. If it works he's the next Chip Kelly. If it fails, he get a $15 million buyout. He had to bring in an OC that would run Butch's offense. He's not so dumb after all. Except he isn't running anything resembling Kelly's offense. Kelly didn't run WR's in and out causing the pace of his play to be delayed. The more I think about it the more I'm convinced that's problem #1. It resembles that more than what TN has historically run. Maybe with Bradford this year, less so. But it's still fast paced, get as many touches as possible (snap the ball with 15-20 seconds on the PC) no huddle, not the I-formation, spread the ball around, lots of moving parts. Perhaps if Dobbs had any protection at all there would be more identical plays attempted. I don't get why there are so many substitutions. Lack of conditioning maybe, or a special Butch twist... possibly thinking he can go faster by running in a new group each time. Possibly trying to gain an advantage by hoping to catch the opposition making a flawed substitiution. Even though the defense is allowed time to adjust, they aren't allowed more than a few seconds... they can't poke around, they have to react to Butch's change rather quickly. |
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Post by TNCOWBOY on Sept 16, 2015 21:09:32 GMT -5
Except he isn't running anything resembling Kelly's offense. Kelly didn't run WR's in and out causing the pace of his play to be delayed. The more I think about it the more I'm convinced that's problem #1. It resembles that more than what TN has historically run. Maybe with Bradford this year, less so. But it's still fast paced, get as many touches as possible (snap the ball with 15-20 seconds on the PC) no huddle, not the I-formation, spread the ball around, lots of moving parts. Perhaps if Dobbs had any protection at all there would be more identical plays attempted. I don't get why there are so many substitutions. Lack of conditioning maybe, or a special Butch twist... possibly thinking he can go faster by running in a new group each time. Possibly trying to gain an advantage by hoping to catch the opposition making a flawed substitiution. Even though the defense is allowed time to adjust, they aren't allowed more than a few seconds... they can't poke around, they have to react to Butch's change rather quickly. Maybe so but the WR production from what are supposed to be (and look the part) studs has bordered on horrid ever since Butch got here. They HAVE to stop running them in and out every play. Its killing continuity and if that is not the problem something is. You cant have three 5*'s and a host of 4's at a position and every damn one suck. Its mathematically impossible. |
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Post by relic on Sept 16, 2015 22:45:59 GMT -5
It resembles that more than what TN has historically run. Maybe with Bradford this year, less so. But it's still fast paced, get as many touches as possible (snap the ball with 15-20 seconds on the PC) no huddle, not the I-formation, spread the ball around, lots of moving parts. Perhaps if Dobbs had any protection at all there would be more identical plays attempted. I don't get why there are so many substitutions. Lack of conditioning maybe, or a special Butch twist... possibly thinking he can go faster by running in a new group each time. Possibly trying to gain an advantage by hoping to catch the opposition making a flawed substitiution. Even though the defense is allowed time to adjust, they aren't allowed more than a few seconds... they can't poke around, they have to react to Butch's change rather quickly. Maybe so but the WR production from what are supposed to be (and look the part) studs has bordered on horrid ever since Butch got here. They HAVE to stop running them in and out every play. Its killing continuity and if that is not the problem something is. You cant have three 5*'s and a host of 4's at a position and every damn one suck. Its mathematically impossible. Maybe we need to stop acting like we have a 5 star offensive line. Cause we don't. Ok Butch, in game adjustments are irrelevant, and it's all about scheme....well then give us some freaking scheme. Can't have it both ways and every other way you can make up dude. |
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