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Post by gramps on May 24, 2015 13:53:48 GMT -5
I don't really give a crap about baseball... it's pretty boring for those of us with short attention spans. Which tells me that you really don't have a clue about what you are trying to defend. Go back and look at how many SEC schools took baseball seriously before Georgia won the SEC's first CWS championship in 1990. Maybe UT has little to show in baseball before Delmonico's era because nobody in the SEC did either? That has changed drastically since then, however. No offense intended, Thunder, but just because you don't have a clue about college baseball nor do you have interest in it doesn't mean others don't.
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Post by TNCOWBOY on May 24, 2015 14:02:05 GMT -5
Thunder being pummeled per usual regardless of the sport.
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Post by Thunder Good-Oil on May 24, 2015 15:35:21 GMT -5
I don't really give a crap about baseball... it's pretty boring for those of us with short attention spans. Which tells me that you really don't have a clue about what you are trying to defend. Go back and look at how many SEC schools took baseball seriously before Georgia won the SEC's first CWS championship in 1990. Maybe UT has little to show in baseball before Delmonico's era because nobody in the SEC did either? That has changed drastically since then, however. No offense intended, Thunder, but just because you don't have a clue about college baseball nor do you have interest in it doesn't mean others don't. If no other SEC schools took baseball seriously before 1980 then TN should have had some success. Also, not giving a crap about something isn't the same thing as knowing nothing about it. However, Know-it-all Gramps as usual lacks logical reasoning, reading, and comprehension skills to understand but never fails to spew his lectures at length. Then Stir-the-chit-Boy never disappoints to chime in.
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Post by relic on May 24, 2015 20:05:58 GMT -5
More often than not, Gramps rocks.
Just say'in.
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Post by gramps on May 24, 2015 21:06:25 GMT -5
Which tells me that you really don't have a clue about what you are trying to defend. Go back and look at how many SEC schools took baseball seriously before Georgia won the SEC's first CWS championship in 1990. Maybe UT has little to show in baseball before Delmonico's era because nobody in the SEC did either? That has changed drastically since then, however. No offense intended, Thunder, but just because you don't have a clue about college baseball nor do you have interest in it doesn't mean others don't. If no other SEC schools took baseball seriously before 1980 then TN should have had some success. Also, not giving a crap about something isn't the same thing as knowing nothing about it. However, Know-it-all Gramps as usual lacks logical reasoning, reading, and comprehension skills to understand but never fails to spew his lectures at length. Then Stir-the-chit-Boy never disappoints to chime in. No, not know it all, but I do have some knowledge of this subject, Thunder, and I don't apologize for it.
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Post by Thunder Good-Oil on May 24, 2015 21:21:22 GMT -5
So is PontifiGramps saying that Coach Dave Serrano will NOT be back next year? On page 1, I said that he will and gave a couple of reasons why... his kid has eligibility, TN fans don't care enough about baseball to demand a change, plus he's lost a lot of players to the pros (more than is normal). PontifiGramps doesn't answer Relic's question... just attacks other's opinions. He thinks I said that he deserves to be back... but like I pointed out PontifiGramps doesn't read and comprehend all that well.
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Post by gramps on May 25, 2015 7:23:54 GMT -5
So is PontifiGramps saying that Coach Dave Serrano will NOT be back next year? On page 1, I said that he will and gave a couple of reasons why... his kid has eligibility, TN fans don't care enough about baseball to demand a change, plus he's lost a lot of players to the pros (more than is normal). PontifiGramps doesn't answer Relic's question... just attacks other's opinions. He thinks I said that he deserves to be back... but like I pointed out PontifiGramps doesn't read and comprehend all that well. Where did I say that Serrano won't be back next year? I said that I believe that next year will be a lame duck year for him. You do understand what "lame duck year" means, don't you? Really, Thunder. You are losing it. No, UT hasn't lost any more players to professional baseball than "normal". Do yourself a favor and do a little research. Every SEC school and just about every top 30 type program loses juniors and high school and juco signees to professional baseball every single year. It's just the nature of college baseball. You're easy pickins on this one. Which of Relic's questions haven't I answered?
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Post by Thunder Good-Oil on May 25, 2015 8:02:08 GMT -5
Too much bulk here.
Do you understand the meaning of "defend"? Where did I defend Serrano? I gave reasons why he will not lose his job.
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Post by Thunder Good-Oil on May 25, 2015 8:34:59 GMT -5
As far as small ball goes, TN played small ball during it's most successful era. Since that time the rules on aluminum bats have changed, so maybe small ball isn't such a bad strategy for a team outside of the top 30. If the pitching staff hadn't been devastated, maybe TN finishes above their traditional suckness playing small ball.
TN should just hire PontifiGramps as the next head ball coach.
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Post by gramps on May 25, 2015 18:57:02 GMT -5
As far as small ball goes, TN played small ball during it's most successful era. Since that time the rules on aluminum bats have changed, so maybe small ball isn't such a bad strategy for a team outside of the top 30. If the pitching staff hadn't been devastated, maybe TN finishes above their traditional suckness playing small ball. TN should just hire PontifiGramps as the next head ball coach. Thunder - the collage baseballball has changed. The laces are lower. The ball travels further. Breaking pitches don't have as much bite. Home runs are up 50% this year, runs scored are up about the same. It's a different game than it was when Serrano was at Irvine and at Fullerton. During the "heyday" of the Delmonico years the bats were live. It was gorilla ball back then. That's really nothing that is a secret to anybody. The issue is that most of the SEC coaches adjusted and prepared for the change. Serrano didn't. Every time you post you show how little you know about it and how weak your argument is. And Still waiting on what questions Relic asked that I didn't answer. Get your head out of the big orange collective ass and look at what's going on their objectively.
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Post by Thunder Good-Oil on May 25, 2015 21:54:19 GMT -5
So now your saying Delmonico wasn't playing small ball?
PontifiGramps knowledge has no limits.
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Post by Thunder Good-Oil on May 25, 2015 22:22:03 GMT -5
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Post by gramps on May 26, 2015 9:08:47 GMT -5
So now your saying Delmonico wasn't playing small ball? He did after the C-core bats came in to play. During the Helton heyday years the bats were live and UT, like just about every body else in the SEC, played gorilla ball. You had 140 pound second basemen hitting handle shots out to the opposite field during those days. The C-core bats came afterwards and Delmonico adjusted and played small ball, as did a lot of coaches. The C-core bats made it a pitching/defense game again. Delmonico wasn't fired because of small ball or wins and losses. There were some serious issues within the program that he brought about, and those issues are why he hasn't been able to get another head coaching job in college baseball since. The only paying gig he has had in college baseball since was a short gig as the #3 assistant (restricted earnings position) at FIU. He hasn't even had a sniff at a head coaching position. Read this slowly, Thunder: The college baseball changed this year. The seams were lowered, which made the ball fly further and breaking pitches have less bite. That's just fact. It's pretty obvious that you don't have a clue what you are trying to defend if you aren't aware of that "small" change in the game. The bats have been adjusted down several times in the last decade or so. This is the first change with the baseball. Most of the SEC coaches prepared for the change and adjusted. Serrano still tried to play small ball with the more lively ball. Your numbers are irrelevant. Home runs and runs scored are way up this year across the board because of the change in the baseball. Even a small ball happy UT team increased it's home run output from 21 in 2014 to 35 this year. That number wasn't because of new players - it was pretty much the same cast of characters swinging the bats. The baseball changed the game. If Serrano has been doing such a great job, as you are trying to defend, they why has he gotten no contract extension and is going to be in the last year of his contract next year? That really reeks of what a great job he has done, doesn't it? You say that baseball never has been good at UT, so there should be no reason why it should now, correct? For what reason should schools like Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Missouri, Ole Miss, etc. be able to find a way to be successful, yet UT can't? Accepting failure should never be an option at UT. Clueless Thunder's arrogance and presumption that since he has know knowledge of subjects then others can't either knows no bounds. And Thunder,
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Post by gramps on May 26, 2015 9:31:59 GMT -5
And the first scapegoat is Associate Head Coach Greg Bergeron, who has resigned this morning according to a release from the UTAD.
Who is next? Going to be tough for Serrano to attract quality assistants in a lame duck year.
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Post by Thunder Good-Oil on May 26, 2015 17:03:15 GMT -5
Serrano had a roster full of little guys that he had been assembling for years. Pitching was the team's strength. PontifiGramps expects him to instantly change to Gorrila Ball. Dumb. Just dumb.
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