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Post by Thunder Good-Oil on Apr 7, 2015 5:48:11 GMT -5
Refs almost screwed up. They lost track of the situation and had Okafor in foul trouble. They had the game way too close in the final two minutes. In the end though, the refs remembered that Duke was scripted the win and pulled them through. People would have been fired, or worse, had Okafor picked up his fifth and Wisconsin had blown out Dook.
It would have been fun if the officiating crew from TN at Miss State would have been assigned to the game. They called something like 43 fouls in that game. But TV dictates that they aren't allowed to call fouls unless bones break or Duke needed a break.
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Post by Thunder Good-Oil on Apr 7, 2015 6:02:33 GMT -5
The Badgers didn't even make the NCAAT for 40 years through 1993. Two decades later they were allowed to beat Kentucky and participate in another Duke NC. Maybe if TN doesn't rock the boat and not steal any recruits from a Blue Blood they too will be allowed to play in a staged Final Four in our lifetimes. Rick Barnes has never been black balled by the powers that be, so it's possible.
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Post by gramps on Apr 7, 2015 7:50:15 GMT -5
Blaming officials.
Just like Kentucky fans did when they lost to Wisconsin.
Pretty sad, really.
And Go Dook.
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Post by MRM on Apr 7, 2015 9:18:34 GMT -5
The refs didn't cost Wisconsin the game. It was letting that Allen kid carve them up with Okafor on the bench and up by 9.
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Post by gramps on Apr 7, 2015 13:44:17 GMT -5
The refs didn't cost Wisconsin the game. It was letting that Allen kid carve them up with Okafor on the bench and up by 9. Yep. And if you want to bitch about officials calls then be fair and include the fact that an officials call (or non call as the case may have been) against Kentucky with the shot clock issue is a large part of why Wisconsin was in the finals in the first place. Got to be consistent when playing that game. |
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Post by MRM on Apr 7, 2015 14:22:56 GMT -5
I agree. That blew that call too.
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Post by Thunder Good-Oil on Apr 7, 2015 14:34:22 GMT -5
Yeah, refs are great. How is it TN gets players in early foul trouble in just about every game, whistles are blown for ticky tac touch crap that puts players on the bench totally disrupting game after game? Remember how Stokes couldn't play the first three minutes without having to sit with two quick fouls? Illegal screens constantly being called, etc, etc. TN at Miss State this year was a free throw shooting contest. Then last night refs try like hell to not blow their whistles. Obvious traveling is totally ignored. Only fouls drawing blood result in calls. Double standard, refs have too much control over the outcomes of games. No way they were going to foul out Okafor last night. NCAA BB is the most corrupt game going today. I'm not fussing about the missed calls. I'm going off on how they manage the games to suit the blue blood programs. It's kind of like an ump's strike zone, only they adjust it to suit the situations. Duke, UK, Kansas, UNC, UCLA, Syracuse, Louisville, and a couple others are scripted to play in close Final Fours. The NCAA would not exist without huge rating for the FF. It's more scripted than the WWE.
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Post by Thunder Good-Oil on Apr 7, 2015 14:40:17 GMT -5
The refs didn't cost Wisconsin the game. It was letting that Allen kid carve them up with Okafor on the bench and up by 9. Yep. And if you want to bitch about officials calls then be fair and include the fact that an officials call (or non call as the case may have been) against Kentucky with the shot clock issue is a large part of why Wisconsin was in the finals in the first place. Got to be consistent when playing that game. I'm not bitching about the screwed up calls as you are with the KY shot clock. The refs are following a script for which programs are to be given favorable calls. Out of 325 teams, it's the same handful over and over that are escorted to the Werner Ladder net cutting ceremony. |
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Post by Thunder Good-Oil on Apr 7, 2015 14:42:25 GMT -5
World Wide Wes, Nike, and the NCAA meet at Bilderberg every year and determine which team will get the championship.
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Post by gramps on Apr 8, 2015 9:22:59 GMT -5
Yep. And if you want to bitch about officials calls then be fair and include the fact that an officials call (or non call as the case may have been) against Kentucky with the shot clock issue is a large part of why Wisconsin was in the finals in the first place. Got to be consistent when playing that game. I'm not bitching about the screwed up calls as you are with the KY shot clock. The refs are following a script for which programs are to be given favorable calls. Out of 325 teams, it's the same handful over and over that are escorted to the Werner Ladder net cutting ceremony. Uh, Thunder - Duke won the game with Okafor and Winslow on the bench with foul trouble for most of the second half. And if there was some kind of pro-Duke conspiracy, then how in the hell were they "allowed" to swallow their whistles when Tyus Jones was Mauled going to the basket with about a minute and a half left that would have stretched the lead to 7? And let's not even mention that Wisconsin was called for all of two fouls in the first half of the game. How in the hell does a team play 20 minutes in a college basketball game in this day and time and only be called for two fouls? That's damned near impossible, and especially if there was some kind of pro-Duke conspiracy like you claim. That just doesn't make sense. Like I said - it's whining. Losers whine about officiating. |
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Post by gramps on Apr 8, 2015 9:56:41 GMT -5
And another number for you to disprove the pro-Duke conspiracy with the game officials:
Wisconsin came in to the game with a per game average of 12.7 fouls committed.
How many fouls did the officials call against the Badgers on Monday? Yep. 13. Right on their average.
So much for some great conspiracy.
Time to move on. Duke won the championship. It wasn't given to them by conspiracy guilty officials.
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Post by 61sr on Apr 8, 2015 11:14:36 GMT -5
And another number for you to disprove the pro-Duke conspiracy with the game officials: Wisconsin came in to the game with a per game average of 12.7 fouls committed. How many fouls did the officials call against the Badgers on Monday? Yep. 13. Right on their average. So much for some great conspiracy. Time to move on. Duke won the championship. It wasn't given to them by conspiracy guilty officials. 13 in the second half, actually, 15 total.
Guess somebody got on the refs at halftime to step it up. :-)
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Post by Thunder Good-Oil on Apr 8, 2015 23:47:11 GMT -5
I'm not bitching about the screwed up calls as you are with the KY shot clock. The refs are following a script for which programs are to be given favorable calls. Out of 325 teams, it's the same handful over and over that are escorted to the Werner Ladder net cutting ceremony. Uh, Thunder - Duke won the game with Okafor and Winslow on the bench with foul trouble for most of the second half. And if there was some kind of pro-Duke conspiracy, then how in the hell were they "allowed" to swallow their whistles when Tyus Jones was Mauled going to the basket with about a minute and a half left that would have stretched the lead to 7? And let's not even mention that Wisconsin was called for all of two fouls in the first half of the game. How in the hell does a team play 20 minutes in a college basketball game in this day and time and only be called for two fouls? That's damned near impossible, and especially if there was some kind of pro-Duke conspiracy like you claim. That just doesn't make sense. Like I said - it's whining. Losers whine about officiating. Uh, when they (Okafor especially) had four fouls, refs refused to see the fifth fouls that happened multiple times. If K had gone somewhere other than West Point you wouldn't be blind to his chit. Cal gets blistered for his one and done program. K's is ignored by the biased media. |
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Post by Thunder Good-Oil on Apr 8, 2015 23:48:46 GMT -5
You probably think that Wooden ran a clean program at UCLA.
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Post by gramps on Apr 9, 2015 11:46:22 GMT -5
Uh, Thunder - Duke won the game with Okafor and Winslow on the bench with foul trouble for most of the second half. And if there was some kind of pro-Duke conspiracy, then how in the hell were they "allowed" to swallow their whistles when Tyus Jones was Mauled going to the basket with about a minute and a half left that would have stretched the lead to 7? And let's not even mention that Wisconsin was called for all of two fouls in the first half of the game. How in the hell does a team play 20 minutes in a college basketball game in this day and time and only be called for two fouls? That's damned near impossible, and especially if there was some kind of pro-Duke conspiracy like you claim. That just doesn't make sense. Like I said - it's whining. Losers whine about officiating. Uh, when they (Okafor especially) had four fouls, refs refused to see the fifth fouls that happened multiple times. If K had gone somewhere other than West Point you wouldn't be blind to his chit. Cal gets blistered for his one and done program. K's is ignored by the biased media. No, actually my Duke basketball fandom goes back to before Coach K was at Duke. I've told the story before. When I was in school in North Carolina, first a a juco right outside of Asheville, and then at Western Carolina - most of my baseball team mates were either UNC or NCState fans. Those were the days before cable TV and ESPN being in every home and you could watch 64 college basketball games on TV every night. All we had were the ACC games on TV and to create something to banter about with those guys I became a fan of Bill Foster's Duke team, which at the time featured Mike Gminiski and Jim Spanarkle. That team came in to Stokley and beat Ernie and Bernie, by the way. So to continue the story, I became a Duke fan before Coach K was ever there and have been since. Coach K went to Duke in 1980 and my last year of college was the 80-81 school year. My son was appointed to the USMA in the fall of 2004. You do the math. But, yes, being a West Point grad does mean something to me, and especially since my son had the opportunity to spend a weekend in a focus group that included 15 cadets being led by Coach K and Bobby Knight. Both of those guys remember where they came from and they give back and they do that weekend about every other year with group of USMA Cadets. My son still gets a handwritten note from Coach K a couple of times a year thanking him for his service and wishing him well. I really don't give a rats ass what anybody else thinks about the man. The experience that my son had with him tells me the truth about him. And losers whine about officials. |
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