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Post by Thunder Good-Oil on Jan 16, 2015 19:10:54 GMT -5
Seems like Joe was either senile and oblivious, didn't care, or didn't want it to get out. He conveniently died, so he can never be asked what he knew and when did he know.
As 404 said, give him the 409. Two separate issues. His legacy is tainted and that could be punishment enough for failing to follow up on the reported incidents. It's not the NCAA's business and the perp is in jail. Nothing to see here. Penn State fans have been punished enough already.
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Post by TNCOWBOY on Jan 16, 2015 19:56:10 GMT -5
Obviously you know something that isn't in the Freeh report or that hasn't been made public. I suppose Joe knew everything & probably reserved shower time for Jerry and his boys.
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Post by terribletowel on Jan 16, 2015 20:33:45 GMT -5
Obviously you know something that isn't in the Freeh report or that hasn't been made public. I suppose Joe knew everything & probably reserved shower time for Jerry and his boys.
You ever heard of Mike McQueary? So if you were in Joe's shoes, knowing that an investigation had already taken place and turned up nothing, and you have this guy fresh out of college on your staff that brings you this info that he claims he saw the night before, you would take it at face value? Wouldnt you want to know why he didn't go to the police or Child protective services or somewhere else more appropriate ? You wouldn't be a little suspicious about that? And what could Joe or the authorities do about it? Could Joe have given them the victim's name or a description? No. McQuerey could & should have done a lot more. And while he dropped the ball, I still think calling him an enabler is going a little too far. |
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Post by TNCOWBOY on Jan 16, 2015 20:44:00 GMT -5
I'm speechless.
Truly this is message board marvel of unthinkable heights. Or depths, rather.
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Post by terribletowel on Jan 17, 2015 1:04:49 GMT -5
Its not crazy at all. If I told people on here that I witnessed a certain SPS'er fondle an underage girl, yet I couldn't tell you who it was & I didn't take it to the police I seriously doubt that many people would believe me or take it to the police.
I can't believe you guys seriously buy that load of crap that everyone knew Jerry Sandusky was a pedophile and kept it hush hush for well being of the football program. I don't think Emmert or Freeh really believe that.
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Post by Magnum on Jan 17, 2015 1:11:40 GMT -5
Towel, do you think Joe didn't even suspect anything?
Because if Joe even suspected Sanduski MIGHT possibly remotely be doing something with young boys, Joe is guilty if he is found guilty.
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Post by TNCOWBOY on Jan 17, 2015 5:50:13 GMT -5
Its not crazy at all. If I told people on here that I witnessed a certain SPS'er fondle an underage girl, yet I couldn't tell you who it was & I didn't take it to the police I seriously doubt that many people would believe me or take it to the police. I can't believe you guys seriously buy that load of crap that everyone knew Jerry Sandusky was a pedophile and kept it hush hush for well being of the football program. I don't think Emmert or Freeh really believe that. Reckon why Sandusky "stepped down" from the DC position in 1999 at age 55? That's about coaching age prime. |
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Post by Krakow on Jan 17, 2015 6:47:19 GMT -5
One of TT's finest troll jobs and he hooked all y'all!
*high five*
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Post by JM on Jan 17, 2015 8:53:48 GMT -5
One of TT's finest troll jobs and he hooked all y'all! *high five* Not me. |
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Post by Krakow on Jan 17, 2015 11:06:15 GMT -5
One of TT's finest troll jobs and he hooked all y'all! *high five* Not me. Hawks fans known for intelligence. |
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Post by Thunder Good-Oil on Jan 17, 2015 12:21:05 GMT -5
I thought it was odd
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Post by terribletowel on Jan 18, 2015 1:54:51 GMT -5
Towel, do you think Joe didn't even suspect anything? Because if Joe even suspected Sanduski MIGHT possibly remotely be doing something with young boys, Joe is guilty if he is found guilty. Why would Joe be guilty if he maybe possibly remotely suspected something? I'm sure there were several people that suspected Jerry was a pedophile. The people who led the investigation back in 98 suspected he was a pedophile. In fact, pretty damned convinced of it. Even if Joe did suspect something, what could he do about it? Take it to his superiors? He did that. Take it to police, who would then launch another investigation to which they would need some hard evidence (that one is teed up for you) to bring about any charges. With sexual predators, until you have a victim that is willing to talk, they are going to continue to roam free and there really isn't a lot that you can do about it. Was Joe supposed to sit outside the locker room showers with a loaded shotgun? I totally fail to see why so much of the blame for Jerry roaming free is falling on Joe's shoulders. Of all the people that should have suspected something, Joe is actually one of the very few people that at least took it to someone else. Where were the case workers for the kids involved? Where was the oversight for The Second Mile facility? |
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Post by terribletowel on Jan 18, 2015 2:16:58 GMT -5
Its not crazy at all. If I told people on here that I witnessed a certain SPS'er fondle an underage girl, yet I couldn't tell you who it was & I didn't take it to the police I seriously doubt that many people would believe me or take it to the police. I can't believe you guys seriously buy that load of crap that everyone knew Jerry Sandusky was a pedophile and kept it hush hush for well being of the football program. I don't think Emmert or Freeh really believe that. Reckon why Sandusky "stepped down" from the DC position in 1999 at age 55? That's about coaching age prime. Yes. Its exactly why he stepped down. That's no secret. He had the stigma of being an accused pedophile. Given his stature & rep in the community for his charity etc, and the fact that the investigation failed to bring about any charges against him, I'm not sure many people really thought he actually was a pedophile. |
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Post by terribletowel on Jan 18, 2015 2:24:14 GMT -5
Seems like Joe was either senile and oblivious, didn't care, or didn't want it to get out. He conveniently died, so he can never be asked what he knew and when did he know. As 404 said, give him the 409. Two separate issues. His legacy is tainted and that could be punishment enough for failing to follow up on the reported incidents. It's not the NCAA's business and the perp is in jail. Nothing to see here. Penn State fans have been punished enough already. Or most likely, probably a little suspicious that Jerry had a thing for boys, but didn't know what the hell to do about it or really didn't think there was much he could do about it. And probably clueless to the scope & magnitude of the abuse. |
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Post by Krakow on Jan 18, 2015 5:46:39 GMT -5
TT is truly dedicated to the trolling craft admire you buddy!
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