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Post by Thunder Good-Oil on Jul 14, 2014 19:30:47 GMT -5
So I'm trying to set up a Facebook account to set up giving them money to purchase advertising campaigns for various company Facebook pages. Don't want to give the credit card info to the various people managing the various Facebook pages for the business. So I go to Facebook and try to set an administrative business account to give them money through. What a cluster fu(k they are. Can't set up an account as a business without using your personal Facebook account. But per the Facebook rules you can only have one personal account... They will lock the accounts if they determine they are more than one account for the same person. What a crappy way to treat your wannabe paying customers. I have money to spend on ads on the multiple Facebook pages (that have apparently been set up by employees using their personal Facebook accounts). But they don't make it at all easy to spend money with them.
I predict that Facebook will go the way of MySpace if they can't figure out that most employees don't want to associate their personal Facebook account (with likes of things like near naked chicks and drunk fu(k's) doing stupid chit with their employers business accounts.
Billionaire idjits.
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Post by TNCOWBOY on Jul 14, 2014 20:41:31 GMT -5
Interesting...
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Post by JM on Jul 14, 2014 20:50:30 GMT -5
LOL
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Post by Thunder Good-Oil on Jul 14, 2014 21:50:25 GMT -5
And Zuckerberg wants to bring all those illegal minors piling up in the Border Patrol warehouses that dog paddled the Rio Grande on up to Menlo Park for dirt cheap labor.
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Post by relic on Jul 15, 2014 22:47:41 GMT -5
Hmm. I do not do the facebook, therefore I cannot possibly comment with any credence.
But I do have a question - could it be that what you want facebook to do for you is in conflict with their basic methodology?
I got no idea, but is it possible you are trying to top down a bottom up organization?
I dunno, just a thought.
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Post by Thunder Good-Oil on Jul 16, 2014 4:49:08 GMT -5
Facebook wants to know everything about everybody. Apparently they don't care very much about businesses that want to put ads on their own Facebook pages. They are making their money by getting to know anything and everything about all individuals and then pushing ads from the big companies out to their personal pages. That's why if I go to a website, or especially a companiy's Facebook page, I see ads for what I looked at appearing on my personal Facebook page. They also sell your "likes" info to the big companies for not just the activity by that personal Facebook page but also the device that was used by a person when accessing their Facebook page. If they gave a chit about a small business placing ads on their own Facebook pages they wouldn't make it so hard to do that. It's probably a waste of our company's money to put ads on our own pages anyway, but that's what the dingbat blonde marketing idjit wants to do.
Facebook and every company selling advertising makes a whole heck of a lot more money per viewer or user the more they know about them. TV channels that have a well defined viewership get to charge a whole lot more per every 1,000 viewers than a channel with a broader audience. Home Depot will pay a lot more per every 1,000 HGTV viewer than they will every 1,000 CNN viewer. Same thing with digital ads. The more data that Facebook (and Google and Yahoo and your e-mail provider) can build on you and your devices the more they will be able to charge Walmart, Home Depot, McDonsld's, and everybody else to stick banner ads up on your screen.
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Post by 404whore on Jul 16, 2014 8:40:11 GMT -5
You aren't paying money for ads to put on your own pages you are paying money for your posts/ads to be seen by people that aren't your friends yet (prospects).
Facebook is incredibly powerful because it works with just about any budget (many local business can't afford to pay to have Tony slurp them hourly) & all that data they collect let's use be very fine with your targeting. Want to just sell to high school educated gamers in Knoxville that have children? You can do it.
The login thing is just an administrative thing. No one can see a link to your personal page .
Fun fact: average age of a FB user is 42. It isn't for kids anymore. To them it is dead. They've moved on to snapchat Whatsapp Instagram etc. but their parents (who are probably your target any way) now live in Facebook.
If you don't what to do it have a staffer do it and use their login.
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Post by Thunder Good-Oil on Jul 16, 2014 8:52:29 GMT -5
Don't want to give out the credit card info to the ding-a-lings in the marketing department. I want to set up an account to administer the payments for the promotions to run on the various FB pages. Tried to do that and FB won't let you create a business page/account unless you use a personal account as the initial step of the process. I don't want to use my personal FB account with work. FB doesn't permit more than one personal account. Most people apparently set up fake personal accounts to do this. Why the hell FB won't just let you establish a business page and enter contact info is beyond my comprehension level. Seems that they just need to know everything about everybody.
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Post by JM on Jul 16, 2014 8:53:46 GMT -5
My advice: Don't put chit on Facebook.
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Post by Thunder Good-Oil on Jul 16, 2014 9:23:57 GMT -5
Not my budget. Blondie can waste her's anyway she wants.
Been talking to our digital consultant. I guess Facebook just has one basic product, you just get very specific about how you want to set the variables for the campaign. I thought that you had one product related to your own pages and another for just putting ads out anywhere. We're actually running the ads to generate "likes" for the various pages, but that's just built in to our display copy... Could just as easily have been an ad for a website or anything. These just happen to be Facebook ads with the purpose of promoting our Facebook pages.
I'm still pissed about not being able to set up an administrative page as a business instead of an individual though.
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Post by Thunder Good-Oil on Jul 29, 2014 20:37:38 GMT -5
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Post by Krakow on Jul 30, 2014 15:55:30 GMT -5
my daughter said the cutest thing today... if you want to know what it is you'll have to check out my facebook page...
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Post by 404whore on Aug 13, 2014 9:36:06 GMT -5
Thunder,
Facebook just told me today that if I want to spend $10,000/month on ads they will invoice the business.
So, big feller I think you need to quit your whining and step up to the grown ups table. All your problems will be solved.
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Post by Thunder Good-Oil on Aug 13, 2014 10:05:18 GMT -5
We sell a several million a month of advertising. We aren't buying much of their garbage crap. Little Feller.
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Post by 404whore on Aug 13, 2014 10:18:00 GMT -5
Shouldn't be a problem for a big player like you to get something worked out
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